joN. on :
despite the fact that i very much enjoyed the new star trek movie, most of your comments are totally valid. obviously 'wrath of khan' is superior and even 'balance of terror' gives this movie a run for its money. this explains why 'wrath of khan' ripped off balance and the new movie ripped off wrath of khan. of course when 'nemesis' attempted to do the same thing they failed miserably. perhaps they didn't steal enough.
anyway, this movie was louder and more bruckheimer-ish. i was okay with it. i've seen enough trek that isn't that way -- hundreds of hours of it.
thinking about it now, i had a more fun time with the great potential this future series has. i think chris pine has a surprising amount of confidence and swagger that is very fitting of kirk. i'm hoping that some of the nonsense in the movie will be replaced in the next one with a darker, more cerebral feel now that all the characters have been re-introduced. 'star trek 2' could be star trek's 'the dark knight.' hey, it's off to a much better start than what they did back in the 70s with 'the motion picture.'
one mention about the mining ship. if you read the comic book tie-in to the movie called 'star trek: countdown' (which is intriguing in itself especially for tng fans since much of it takes place in the future involving several tng characters), the immensity, technological advancement and different look of the romulan ship is explained. it has something to do with being outfitted with castaway borg technology or something.
even though there is some kind of explanation for that problem you had, i don't like additional explanation for the romulan mining ship. i like the idea that the technology and grandeur of the ship is simply because it's from a more advanced age. looking at advancements in the past 50 years, i don't have too much trouble believing that advancement will be even more rapid 300 years from now. even though it's just a giant mining ship, its emergency defense system can lay waste at will to the primitive ships of the past.
still though, you're mostly right -- even though i think your reaction is far too strong.
(aside: i think your initial strong reaction has caused you to look for a few easy plot targets such as the dumb miners who were also brilliant. they had 20 years. if they couldn't figure it out in that time, they would have gotten help. no need to show this though because such technicalities wouldn't really be that important in telling the story.)
this movie is exciting for folks now, but as the years go on, i think the excitement will fade. it won't become the classic that 'wrath of khan' became.
anyway, this movie was louder and more bruckheimer-ish. i was okay with it. i've seen enough trek that isn't that way -- hundreds of hours of it.
thinking about it now, i had a more fun time with the great potential this future series has. i think chris pine has a surprising amount of confidence and swagger that is very fitting of kirk. i'm hoping that some of the nonsense in the movie will be replaced in the next one with a darker, more cerebral feel now that all the characters have been re-introduced. 'star trek 2' could be star trek's 'the dark knight.' hey, it's off to a much better start than what they did back in the 70s with 'the motion picture.'
one mention about the mining ship. if you read the comic book tie-in to the movie called 'star trek: countdown' (which is intriguing in itself especially for tng fans since much of it takes place in the future involving several tng characters), the immensity, technological advancement and different look of the romulan ship is explained. it has something to do with being outfitted with castaway borg technology or something.
even though there is some kind of explanation for that problem you had, i don't like additional explanation for the romulan mining ship. i like the idea that the technology and grandeur of the ship is simply because it's from a more advanced age. looking at advancements in the past 50 years, i don't have too much trouble believing that advancement will be even more rapid 300 years from now. even though it's just a giant mining ship, its emergency defense system can lay waste at will to the primitive ships of the past.
still though, you're mostly right -- even though i think your reaction is far too strong.
(aside: i think your initial strong reaction has caused you to look for a few easy plot targets such as the dumb miners who were also brilliant. they had 20 years. if they couldn't figure it out in that time, they would have gotten help. no need to show this though because such technicalities wouldn't really be that important in telling the story.)
this movie is exciting for folks now, but as the years go on, i think the excitement will fade. it won't become the classic that 'wrath of khan' became.